Arnold says banning Oscar from having alcohol is not fair.

“It’s not relevant because he doesn’t drink alcohol at all,” Arnold said.– Then where is the problem?

I also want to go to Moz’ but my wife said “over my dead body”.

Lock him back up again. This is Typical offer a hand, take the arm tactics. don’t let him out the country, do not give him permission to interfere with witness’s and if he doesn’t drink he doesn’t need that prohibition lifted either. Its time for the Pistorius family to accept that no matter how they present this case Oscar is guilty of murder in the eyes of the law.

Once he has a passport he can go to Mozambique and catch a private jet from there to anywhere.

Oh well why not? He’s just murdered his girlfriend out of rage so now he deserves a nice holiday at the coast in another country.
What a wonderful uncle rewarding him for a job well done……my fuk, these Pistorius lizards have no skaam!
As far as I remember he had no problem with the bail conditions when he was granted bail but now suddenly he has a problem with the conditions???
Looks like the whole idiotic family has a problem with the conditions now…….interesting!
Next step is to flee the country and claim he will not have a fair trial here.

Shoot a person behind a door (intruder or not) when you had an escape route down the stairs is culpable homicide… do it four times and it is intentional murder. Now this murderer wants to do his mourning on the sunny beaches of Mocambique. He can do this on the sunny shores of uncle Arnie’s olympic-sized swiiming pool right now, instead of in a jail cell.

These are the things in life that have been denied Reeva forever. He was so greatful to just get out on bail and agreed to all terms. The lawyers all moved in to uncle Arnie’s house and now all of the plotting and scheming is going on. They were given a finger and they will only be happy with the entire arm.

Arnold says banning Oscar from having alcohol is not fair.
“It’s not relevant because he doesn’t drink alcohol at all,” Arnold said.

Well, it’s no impediment at all then, is it? Like a court order preventing him from becoming an astronaut.

Reeva cant go to Mozambique, so why should he?

I’m sure Reeva’s family would like to share a glass of wine with her and take her away on a safe holiday too! Too late for that …

Unbelievable!! These people are living in cloud cuckoo land and clearly have no sensitivity or remorse for the community, the Steenkamps, or anyone else. I have seldom seen such selfish arrogance in all my life.

I think he is asking for rediculous concessions as a smoke screen so that they will grant the ones he really wants – freedom of movement, socialising, return to the house etc. Ask for 10 things and maybe they give you five.

Wow. Oscar’s lack of humility astounds me. If I were in his situation the LAST thing that would be on my mind would be a cocktail poolside in Moz. The utter lack of moral compass is very evident. Far cry from the stone-faced trembling man that hung onto every word the judge said when reading bail conditions. That’s the whole point CONDITIONS of bail. He agreed to those conditions… and now he wants them relaxed?? Please, what a joke.

Let Oscar leave the country and you have another Shrien Diwani scenario. Oscar is lucky to be out on bail. Someone without money would be rotting in jail. The wishes and sentiments of the victims family must be taken into cognisance. The Hinduja family went through emotional and financial trauma trying to get justice for Annie, and it will be a travesty of justice if this trial does not get to court simply because the accused has fled.

In his bail application, if I remember correctly, Oscar stated that he would have no objection to surrendering his passports. Basically he would have done anything to be granted bail, so he was; “As easy as that?” he must have asked himself, “oh well, then I might as well ask for freedom of movement as well.. and to be able to drink alcohol… and uh.. well that’s enough for now. Next I will ask for my guns back.. and start dating again, perhaps we can just forget about the whole story?”
I am not saying he is guilty. However I would think that if you killed your girlfriend by accident and now stand trial for it, that traveling abroad would be the last thing on your mind.

He got bail and yet he intentionally and deliberately murdered somebody whether he believes it to have been Reeva or not. To say now that the bail conditions are unfair is absolutely preposterous and an insult to the memory of the woman he murdered. He should stop ducking and diving like someone else we all know and shut up whilst he prepares his defence for the trial. The fact that he is eager to sell off his house and horses is in itself suspicious that he wants to flee the country. He is already beginning to act like Shrien Dewani.

These defenders of Oscar are almost right. He doesnt drink alcohol, he ABUSES it, gets drunk behaves like an idiot and kills his girlfriend. They would’nt be so defensive if it was one of their sisters who was killed.

Imagine being on the plane with this guy. If you need the toilet you’d have to hold it in for the whole flight. I would feel nervous getting into the small plane toilet with him nearby…

Since when does Oscar not drink alcohol? Previous reports definitely contradict that.

Next he’ll ask to be allowed to carry his guns…

Oscar wants to carry on with his life like nothing has happened. Reality check, Mr. Pistorius, you are a murderer and NO, you are not special at all.

Have you ever heard such utter bullsh*t in your life??? If he was just another ordinary citizen, do you think that any of this would apply. Jesus wept!

If Oscar does not drink Alcohol at at all, then I am “Almighty Jesus”.

i’d be really concerned if he was asking for permission to start dating again.

He seems to have been pampered all his life and told how marvellous he is. Lots of people have battled with disabilities and overcome them without the assistance of a wealthy background.

Okay so he was granted bail…cool. So does he want any other concessions? This boy needs to face the music and show remorse for what he has done.

“Arnold Pistorius owns a farm in Mozambique and the family want Oscar to move there to get out of the media spotlight”

… and making a statement like this to the MEDIA will help???.

Ok you guys are going a little too far now…. You were happy with the conditions so that you could get bail but now you are taking the piss…….
I am sure Reeva would have loved to take her family to Mozam and enjoy sundowners on the beach but they are denied ever doing that!!!…. RIP Reeva

Has SA a extradition treaty with Mozambique? Where is OP stuck at the home of his uncle, as he can move around SA as long as he notifies the authorities of his movements. To get him out of the country and out of the media spotlight is nonsense, as it is the Pistorius family that are still creating the media hype with their PR stunts and crazy comments.

- Oscar Pistorius wants a court to allow him to drink alcohol
- Arnold says banning Oscar from having alcohol is not fair.
- “It’s not relevant because he doesn’t drink alcohol at all,” Arnold said.
Eish, my head is spinning trying to understand that.

Wow. Oscar’s lack of humility astounds me. If I were in his situation the LAST thing that would be on my mind would be a cocktail poolside in Moz. The utter lack of moral compass is very evident. Far cry from the stone-faced trembling man that hung onto every word the judge said when reading bail conditions. That’s the whole point CONDITIONS of bail. He agreed to those conditions… and know he wants them relaxed?? Please, what a joke.

i think he is selling his assets to make a run for it…

What part of consequence does this man and his family not understand. You cannot take someones life for no good reason and then expect to enjoy the pleasures of life on demand. He should be thanking his lucky stars, he has been released and can live in comfort in his uncles home until sanctioned…seems like he has already forgotten what a police cell was like.

Can you imagine every criminal on bail making demands and “creating” their own bail conditions? What an interesting and lawless world it would be.

Only mighty OP has the audacity to tell the system what to do; and to expect it done. After all, they are already going to his home, instead of him going in to report every Monday and Friday. Wish I had money and fame

Our prisons are full of awaiting-trial individuals who would love to visit Moz or any other sunny place for a bit before their trial starts. Not all of them are accused of vicious murder, and probably most of them are not awaiting trial on evidence so overwhelming on either side that a long delay in going to trial would be unnecessary — because many of them have been awaiting trial for two or three years or even longer while the police and prosecution bungle on — in the same prisons as those people who have already been sentenced (that’s our idea of ‘justice’). Why does his silly uncle even tell the media, or his loose-mouthed lawyers, about this totally irrelevant and impractical little dream of his? Why do the media even publish this BS? It would be nice if all accused awaiting trial on serious charges (and a percentage of them are bound to be innocent) could have the media fawning over them with little sentimental tidbits. But we don’t even know the names of most of them, and no one would mourn for them if they spent year after year in isolation in dark cells without hope of a fair trial anytime soon. Enough of this OP and his distasteful family. He’ll have his day in court sooner than many other accused. Let the media rather take a closer look at the conditions under which hundreds of others are waiting for trials that never seem to materialise. (In the Czech Republic, unconditional release is constitutionally compulsory after a certain period has elapsed without a trial materialising.)

He should have thought of all the concequences before he killed Reeva. Did he really think he’d get away with murder?

I can go to Moz because I did not kill my Girlfriend in cold blood. On valentines day nogal. This family is just getting into my nerves.

Maybe he will be happier in Jail than at his uncles house. Did anyone give him that option. I’m sure the media won’t bother him there

“Oscar is also trying to sell his Pretoria home…” Who would buy that house?

When he was still in jail, he volunteered to give up his passport to get bail. Now they want to move the goal post. NO NO NO

Uncle Arnold, show him videos of Mozambique, and the Greek Isles, and the Copacabana….and the beautiful girl he killed. I don’t smoke & don’t drink; so why should it bother me if I’m banned from doing it?
Dirk Prinsloo was a classic example: got his passport back, went to Russia and returned; left again and disappeared until he foolishly tried to rob a bank in Belarus years later.

This a$$wipe really thinks he did nothing wrong and an “Oops, sorry” is going to make it all go away …

Arnold says banning Oscar from having alcohol is not fair.

“It’s not relevant because he doesn’t drink alcohol at all,” Arnold said.

So whats the big hoo haa about then?

Mr. Pistorius for the goodness sake BE QUIET. Put up and shut up. You are now behaving exactly as you did at the Paralympic Games when things did notgo your way EXCEPT this time the stakes are somewhat higher and far more tragic and sinister – not a gold medal – you are suspected of pre-meditated murder and at the very least are guilty of deliberately and intentionally killing another human being – un-identified un-armed and of no clear threat to to your or your girlfriend – ooops apologies its your girlfriend you killed- silly me.Echoing other posts you are your family are not only making fools of yourselves and furthering your cause in the forthcoming trial in no way whatsoever you are a COMPLETE and TOTAL disgrace to Reeva, her family, the people of South Africa and the South African criminal justice system. How dare you have the arrogance to challenge your bail conditions when you could, and should be locked in a cell so you cannot harm anyone else. You should be extremely grateful you are not incarcerated for the next year as you await trial and keeping your head down and your big mouth shut. Lets hope you and that other nicompoop Shiren Derwani get to share a cell together when you are both finally brought to justice. MOney may buy you expensive and lawyers and time but justice, karma and the natural order of things will prevail.,If ANY of your bail conditions are eased or revoked it will be a complete travesty., Shame on you Mr. Pistorius shame on you. Your very expensive counsel should be strongly advising you to keep your own counsel and refrain from acting like a petulant teenager charged with a simple affray or traffic violation. Grow up.

The entire family is so self centered and dense. They are not getting it. Oscar killed Reeva, she no longer gets to be with family or go on holiday. The Pistorius family should be grateful that Oscar isn’t sitting in jail until the June trial, which I doubt will commence on time. He should be thanking his Maker that he has his freedom and life, Reeva isn’t as lucky. What makes this pompous family think Oscar should have any of his bail conditions relaxed? If they had any compassion they would just keep quiet – if anything out of respect for Reeva. The fact Oscar, is that you ended the life of a compassionate woman that could have done great things for society – you deserve nothing!

He shouldn’t have been allowed bail in the first place. Why does his uncle want to take him to Moz anyway?

You can build sandcastles and drink cheap 5:1 juice here you little dipsh*t. This oke is an embarrassment to South African men. Knobjockey!!!

How can they allow him to travel – I mean he KILLED SOMEONE, unintentionally or not, she’s dead, he shot her.. What is this nonsense?

The arrogance astounds me….

“He is still grieving and trying to come to terms with the tragedy.”
Grieving for what? you shot at her 5 times, get real!

South Africa currently has extradition agreements with the following countries:
Botswana, Lesotho, Malawi, Swaziland.
What about Mozambique? If a judge agrees to this, I’ll lose all faith in our justice system.

First Oscar turned on the waterworks everday at his bail hearing portraying some injured, frightened bird that could not survive locked in a cage with the rest of the deranged beasts. Bail granted and… SUDDENLY we have a Jekyll & Hyde show where the timid little bird has morphed into an arrogant snotheaded draak whose actions show no remorse, rather a warped sense of entitlement. He clearly does not acknowledge the law’s conditions for bail BECAUSE he does not acknowledge the gravity of KILLING another person (whether intentional or not) upon which the law basis these conditions. But let him keep digging that hole and allow debbie and co’s minds a chance to process the enormity of the possibility that he’s guilty.

This gets weider and weider – who are these people some wack jobs – its as if these Pistorius’ dont believe they’re ordinary citizens like you and I. It’s all about themselves only. Oscar wants so Oscar gets. Like some spoilt child who believes he’s simply entitled to something just because he wants it. NO they shouldnt be allowed to drink alcohol and go on holidays when they want to. ‘Life doesnt just carry on after an incident like this. Ít was probably booze in the first place that caused the whole affair happening

^&*()(*^% it…….doesnt he just want to be acquited as well without a trial!????? It was unfair to kill that girl!!! Yet you whinge and whine, you dam lucky you werent kept inside!!!

this uncle looks like a glory hunter ”the uncle of the shooter’

None of this is relevant. Bail conditions were set end of discussion. Other criminals don’t get to negotiate. And he can always get a cheaper legal crowd. The court case should have been set a lot sooner. Why is this family so special?

They are twisting words, by saying he is not a flight risk. The court took into consideration that he will not have access to his passport when that statement was made. If he has it the the picture changes. The facts in this matter do not favour Oscar on his own version he is guilty of murder, he opened fire on a person in circumstances where there was no imminent danger. The question that is unanswered is whether there was premeditation or not. Unless some serious mitigating circumstances exist this looks like jail time. That in itself makes fleeing justice a real possibility and allowing him to leave our borders will create a situation where one can only hope and trust that he will come back to face the music, with the resources this man has access to a court would be crazy to allow him to leave. Concerning the alcohol story one just wonders why the court would have gone that far? In so far as his use of alcohol or rather the allegation that he does not, seriously people my eyes are not that great but this is nonsense and he also frequented some public venues where he used alcohol so trying to paint this good boy picture really places questions on the integrity of his supporters.

Holiday in Moz and then in Italy huh?? where do they draw the line.
I think you should be thankfull (like you were) for getting bail in the first place!!
Now stop wasting tax payers money and wait for justice to be served.
You idiots are putting yourself in the lime light now please go away!!!

Why should he get any Privileges he committed a crime and now has to pay the price for being trigger happy, next thhing he will be suffering from depression just like Dewani

Ag shame, cut him a break, poor boy has to report to the cop shop, shame – maybe he should have just stayed behind bars so he wouldnt be inconvenienced. And really, why shouldnt he allowed to alcohol, especially since he doesnt drink it anyway. And on top of that why cant he go to Moz, he deserves a holiday. If I killed somebody I dont see why I dont deserve a holiday too. He has just lost big time favour with me, suddenly he is the badly done by one. He should just be happy he isnt locked up instead he is annoyed that he hasnt got all the freedom he thinks he deserves. He sounds like a teenager who got grounded by his parents. Bet Reeva’s parents would love it if she was housebound right now.

So why was he happy to give up his passports during the bail hearing? Scaly family, the Pistoriuses…

Hello am I the only one who thinks Oscar is lucky to even get bail now he wants to take a holiday to Moz and sip on “virgin”Mojito’s?! Come on now. Bail is not a right the courts have discretion to grant bail and given the seriousness of his charges he should be grateful that he’s been granted bail let alone check in twice a week.Which doesn’t seem all that unreasonable.

And I’m the Easter Bunny…….. if he gets to Mozambique he’s gonna do a runner, blades and all……

my word is there no end to this man and his family’s arrogance???? He is damn lucky to be out on bail for the charges he is accused of and to grant him permission to travel to abroad is just stupid and affords him the oppurtunity to flee justice…

The greatest legacy that any man could leave his children is the way in which he treats their mother.

This man makes me sick. He really has no remorse. He moved her body to cover his tracks. Apparently she was slumped over the toilet, that’s what proves she went to the toilet. We will never know if that’s true. Why did he move her body?

he doesn’t use or abuse alcohol??? really what about the boating accident????

I watched the program re OP last night on BBC3, and so many questions still remains, and stuff that is not making sense. He comes accross as very “windgat” indeed, with a temper to match.

Put him in jail – where he should be !!

Shooting Reeva wasnt very fair now was it, but you did it. All this crap about fair and unfair, you got bail be happy with that

wow OP – way to show regret “O yeah, I know I accidentaly killed my gf, but I am so digging a holiday now BRAHHH”

Sorry, no holiday in Moz. If staying at your uncles house is not nice perhaps a return to the holding cells would be much better for you!

Now where is South Africa going to end if all murderers ask the government to give back their passports, allow them to drink, smoke tik and dagga and just carry on with their lives as before they started to murder, rape and kill?
This a far fetched and a complete mockery of the legal system in South Africa leaving no stone unturned to gain a maximum freedom.
OSCAR is a criminal and he belongs with his kind.
And believe me all criminals, murderers, substance users and abusers, rapers, killers were all born innocent and naked. They finally choose to do what they are good at…. in Afrikaans “die appel val nie ver van die boom”….

He shows no remorse what the hell going on vacation to feel better about what he did to Reeva

Uncle Arnie has a game farm in Mozambique and many weapons…. me think Oscar has a itching trigger finger!

yeah, let’s get pissed in the sun in mozambique. forget about reeva. who was she again?

Maybe it’s South Africa doesn’t have extradition agreements with Moz? So he will go and never come back for his trial…

Everyone in Moz duck and dive!!! bullets are going to be flying all over the place when they go hunting there…ouch!

No holidays for convicted murderers. Also no holidays for those facing murder charges.
He did shoot his lovely girlfriend, and now looks for sympathy or a holiday to forget his cares. He should be in a cell with a picture of her on the wall.

Unless this is more media drivel, I would recommend that the entire Pistorius clan, shut up, sit tight and wait for the law to take its course.

Maybe I’m stupid, but if he doesnt drink alcohol at all, why does he want this condition lifted????? Seems his PR people and family are contradicting themselves……..

What he wants is “no bail ” conditions . Windgat and arrogant. I say he should have his bail revoked as he is a flight risk

If he does not drink why does he want the ban of drinking alchol lifted???????????????????

It seems like everyone wants to take advantage of “lady justice”

“It’s not relevant because he doesn’t drink alcohol at all,” Arnold said. – Then it should not be an issue. Looks like he wants to have a party. The cheek of it – he should not have been granted bail in the first place.

never thought the drinking of alcohol would be a priority for the defence, is it really necessary for him to drink. on the other hand Id like to go to Moz and have a nice Tipo Tinto on the beach

Unbelievable!

This is just crazy. He AGREED to all the bail conditions and now wants to have it all relaxed. Has he forgotten that he cold bloodedly murdered a young woman who had not yet even reached the prime of her life. Whether he thought it was Reeva in that toilet or thought it was an intruder he fired FOUR shots! Surely he meant to kill whoever was behind that door?? Now he wants to go and relax on a farm in Mozambique. Maybe the magistrate who hears his “appeal” will overturn the bail, not the bail conditions, for his ungrateful attitude. He should be in jail awaiting trial. I’m afraid that, no matter how much they say there was no “special” treatment, he certainly was given “special” treatment! Let’s see if the judicial system really works in this country!

I think the SA Police forgot to impart to Pistorius and his uncle that the intent of his bail conditions is strict confinement as restricted as his previous jail conditions. He was not given bail to gadabout or to facilitate travel excursions at home or abroad.

who here knows about this Gerie Nel for the prosecution? is he any good?…..i sure hope so…because some people are actually believing Oscars BS story….I really want this Nel guy to be good….

What a Disgusting family. I hope they all rot in hell. Pieces of shyte.

ag shame, its not the same bragging to the chommas without a brewski

He should be happy that he doesn’t have to sleep in a cell every night, but no he wants to go on holiday to Mos….

Who in their right minds would buy the house where Reeva was killed by him??

Who in their right head will buy a home where a famous person was murdered? The Pretoria museum perhaps?

Revoke his bail and shut him up please! Everyday he brings more disgrace to SA.

In life if you want to enjoy luxuries and previllegies stay on the right side of the law.He should feel the pain like all of us who lost an innocent soul.

Oscar not only drinks alcohol, but has a problem with it. I can’t believe the gall of this waste of a human skin.

Well, hush my mouth and stuff it full of chilli peppers.

Isn’t Mozambique, coincidentally … one of the countries that has no extradition agreement/treaty with South Africa?

The list of countries without extradition teaties with South Africa:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Botswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Indonesia, Iran, Ivory Coast, Jordan, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, Mali, Maldives, Mauritania, Mongolia, Morocco, Mozambique, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Philippines, Qatar, Rwanda, Samoa, Sao Tome e Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, USSR, United Arab Emirates, Vanuatu, Vietnam, Yemen, Yemen South, Zaire,

Forget Moz Buddy. Bubba in Block F wanna take you to Heaven every night pretty boy.

I guess if they give him his passport back we will truly know whether he is a flight risk or not. Don’t wanna be in that judge’s shoes…Is drinking that important to someone who claims to be grieving…You just wasting your money, save up for your court case dude!!!

Dear all,

Am neither Afrikaner, white or South African, but ironically I study in Johannesburg approximately a decade. However, I would love to deeply appeal to you all to refrain your public brutality and malicious comments. As I mentioned before, everybody involved in this tragedy is simply a victim. The deceased herself, both families, and the athlete, including South Africa as a country and an eternal recurrence gun society. However, what his father has said others also did and feel the same way before, and it is not a question of being a white and unprotected individual in South Africa, or by the ANC. South Africa is per excellence a society of crime, gangs and guns, shooting, violence and proliferation of many small arms, and each and everybody is a witness and a victim of such devastation.

His family as well as Reeva’s family, friends and relatives are for sure absolutely affected for such a disgrace, but it doesn’t imply that you people brutalise yourselves with such low class comments, simply because now everybody is brutally sensitive enough?

Even though he faces one of the greatest tragedy in the history of sports, as well as a double family sorrow, at least refresh yourselves, and behave in a manner that Oscar was simply a sports’ national hero, isn’t it?

Mistakes do exist, he his paying for his own mistake, pain, social and sports’ disintegration and the law will proceed, even though it is for real that it involves Reeva’s death, ne?

Behave as civilised people and at least show to the world that you people are dignified individuals and show the minimal respect for the accused person. The unfortunate four shots are also an indication of his inexperience of dealing with guns, even though he was forced to use it, ne?

The world is indeed shocked, we are all deeply sad and affected, so are the families, and only the Court will pass its final judgement, and inchoerent approaches are not helpful at all.

What will be anyone’s response in a similiar situation like this?

Leave this boy alone and get on with your life.He has more than enough to contend with and can do without your negativety

Completely agree with uncle Arnie. Oscar is a national icon who has been through hell. He needs a few weeks in Moz to kick his heels, drink a few ice cold brews and contemplate live. Just no shots in the pub or the tub.

Yawn, enough of this. Let’s wait for the trial now. Surely there are other interesting news items to publish?